The new Low, David Price exploiting the fact that I have Cystic Fibrosis

The Gods David Price and Michael Van Andel offer us one more final opportunity as a grace and also throw some more threats our way:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 5:53 AM, David Price <david@gatheronline.com> wrote:
 

Sergiu,

 
As you are well aware we have hired a large law firm to pursue criminal and civil claims against you and Manuel, and you both did not respond within the 48 hours given. The law firm has sent me final papers to sign off, which iI will do today at 8pm Sydney time, and return to them to formally submit for proceedings this afternoon Romanian time. We have already paid the law firm a retainer upfront- we will proceed with our claim unless there is a more favourable alternative provided by then.
 
Michael and I as religious people are offering your one final opportunity as a grace. Manuel is for to stubborn, and I believe, and think you will agree, has certain psychological issues that will prevent him from making any concessions. I believe perhaps you are more reasonable, but maybe not- I don’t really care, as I said we just felt obligated to give you one final opportunity for your own sake, whether you take it or not.
 
You know many of the claims you/ Manuel made were false, and others you may not know or may not believe to be false. However we have evidence and that’s why the crowdfunding platforms have found their investigations in our favour, and it will be the same with any court. This is actually irrelevant regarding many of the actions you have taken. You stole some of our data and gave evidence of this to a third party- you provided evidence of a crime. Is this intelligent? It’s the same with many of the unlawful acts you have committed- no matter what you claim we did there is simply no legal defence- ask your father.
 
Think about the legal costs and consequences you are about to go through- is the going to be the best way forward for you?
 
Anyway do what you want, you have until 8pm Sydney time today to make an offer that is preferable to us proceeding with our claim, or we will proceed as our law firm has laid out for you.
 

David

Sergiu rejects their graceful offer:

On 28 Sep. 2017 8:35 pm, “Sergiu Manolache” <xergiu90@yahoo.com> wrote:

David, lets both do our best and may the one telling the truth win. We will press criminal charges against you in Australia and release this case to the press, so you can come after us for whatever made up reason you can find. You will be the one having to justify to the judge why you wasted investors money in pursuing criminal charges against us when you knew everything that we stated was true. Also I have a feeling the press will find out way more things about you than we did , and if what we discovered disgusted us, I can only imagine how they will react when they find out the rest of the things you are hiding. 
At the end of the day you can’t erase from your mind the fact that you owe us more than $110,000 in work we did and you know we are entitled to. Unless you find a way to run away from yourself I’m pretty sure you will be facing everything you’re trying to hide soon enough, the moment of truth is upon us, not that you don’t feel it already but you like prolonging the inevitable.
 
In any case know that we have nothing personal against you or especially Michael ( in spite of what he thinks), but with the way you treat people that help you. In the end you have to live with yourself, all we want is to recover the money we are entitled to and I can’t stress enough the fact that I really want you to reconsider and find a moment of clarity and pay us what you owe us so we can get this thing behind us in somewhat amiable terms.


On Thursday, September 28, 2017, Sergiu Manolache <xergiu90@yahoo.com> wrote:

The fact of the matter is that we do care about the people and before this mail we were willing to receive only the sum from the invoices, leaving the equity to be split up to the freelancers you currently employ. It’s not about the money, it’s about people like you that take advantage of freelancers and treating them like scum after they no longer work for you.
 
We will see how beneficial the trial will be to your image and if investors will still support a criminal like you. You aren’t protected by Seedrs risk mitigation clause when it comes to fraud.

Again they talk about themselves as Gods and they give us one more final chance, also they are going to tell on us to Joel Osteen, and of course the regular threats:

On Friday, September 29, 2017 7:17 AM, David Price <david@gatheronline.com> wrote:
Michael, I just saw your email now.

 
Sergiu, stated in his last email that they still think everything they are saying is true. So either they are completely delusional, or completely mendacious, either way there is no point in actually asking them for reasons or explanations.
 
Sergiu for the record everything significant you and Manuel have been saying is false. If you were in touch with reality, even you would know 90% is completely false- I mean you claimed the two of you and Alex built the code, while you actually worked as part of a team of 9 + developers. Do you actually think we are funelling money out of the company when we have up to 15 monthly staff to pay- every transaction of our is monitored- there isnt enough money left over even for us to have the direct marketing budget we wanted, so that had to be reduced for some months. Do you actually think Alexis is not a real company valuation expert when he worked for a massive European private Equity fund doing evaluations as his primary job. Do you know he has received zero cash for us and did the work all on an equity basis? Do you actually think the role of CFO is not required in startup as a paid role.
 
The other 10%, you just probably don’t understand why it’s false but I’m not going to help you with it, if you can’t even accept the 90%, that’s so obvious. You can hire investigators and lawyers, and spend all your money and launch your claim and we will respond, and then lawyers, who actually understand reality will see why 100% of your claims are false, just like Seedrs did. We have not done one unlawful thing, whether you can accept that or not its the reality. We had the right to go into a dispute about payments with you. you might not like it, but we followed a legitimate process of independent review, and the process should have continued in a legitimate way from there. You should have responded in the appropriate way, not with unlawful acts.
 
The other matter which you and Manuel seem to have no comprehension of is that even hypothetically if 100% of your claims were true, the only thing that is a defense for is defamation. You still would have broken, blackmail laws, data theft laws etc, and the correctness of any of your claims is completely irrelevant to these laws- you still face the full penalties. So on most counts you have 0 chance of defending yourself, and on the defamation, we can show 100% of your claims are false but even if we just showed 20% were false you will still lose the defamation case.
 
So basically if you understand anything about law, you know you are losing all proceedings against you- because there is no possible legitimate defenses and are just trying to intimidate us to back off. We aren’t backing off no matter what happens unless there is a reasonable settlement offer. We aren’t intimidated by any legal threats when we know we have rock solid evidence to support our position.
 
Again you are quite fortunate in that the legal firm did not finish the papers yesterday and has thus promised them today, as I have to sign before I leave on my overseas travels. They will be signed and submitted today. May God is giving you one final chance to dothe right thing.
 
There was an opportunity to discuss your payment before you broke all the laws. Legitimately you have caused over $200k in damages to the company now- and that includes all its shareholders. That excludes defamation to Michael and my personal reputations which would exceed $100k each. You cannot still beleive it is right you get paid any monies now, unless all right mean is what is selfishly best for you. You want more of investors money after what you have done to them?
 
Plus now Joel Osteen would have a defamation case against you too- we would be happy to inform his megachurch about the action you have taken so they can also commence proceedings against you also.
 
Today is going to change the next decade of your life significantly depending on what you decide to do. If you have the capacity to be reasonable and pragmatic, you should stop trying to win and get the outcome you want, and actually understand the level of risk you are taking for virtually nothing other than ego.
 
David
 
 
Sergiu tells them they are free to do whatever they want and also that we will be entitled to ask for damages based on how this affected my the evolution of my Cystic Fibrosis:
 

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Sergiu Manolache <xergiu90@yahoo.com> wrote:

David,
 
Let me start by saying that we will never pay anything to you, no matter how much you try to intimidate me with any made up reason. If our allegations are false then you have nothing to worry about and you shouldn’t consider the evidence (more than you imagine) we have amassed. Because you lack the imagination to see how we found the evidence, like you said in the previous email, I will not help you.
 
If you think 20 views on a blog caused investors to lose that much money you are delusional, but imagine if a news article ever came out – what ramifications would that have. 
 
And if we talk about damages, consider that because of this industrious process you and your company made us go through, my brother which has cystic fibrosis became ill. Tell me who is more entitled to damages now? He asked me not to share this but i just want you to know how low you’ve gotten.
 
Again we urge you to reconsider a peaceful resolve of this issue. Our previous offer still stands, you pay us the last 2 invoices and the equity we have gets divided among the programmers and Shiva. 
 
 
 
David Price immediately starts exploiting the fact that I have CF to intimidate us to renounce all claims to the money we worked for and also provide them with a dishonest declaration about what happened so they can go on with their ‘business’ and steal more investors money using the crowdfunding platforms they used the first times.
And with their unending grace they make us one more final offer:
 
From: David Price <david@gatheronline.com>
To: Sergiu Manolache <xergiu90@yahoo.com
Cc: Michael Van Andel <michael@gatheronline.com>; Manuel Manolache <manuel2001ro@yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017, 10:55


Subject: Re: Final opportunity to make an offer

 

Sergiu there can’t be evidence without an unlawful act. So I know I have nothing to worry about.

 
I am sorry to hear about Manuel’s illness, but we were unaware of this issue, and he of his own free-will chose to work certain hours. Legally there is no possible claim here, where we could be found liable.
 
You exposed all crowdfunding investors to your claims, no the blog only. You breached our security and we have had to get security experts. We have had to hire legal teams in 2 countries. Some of our private investors have been exposed to your claims. There is $250k in damages.
 
The fact is you know you have done wrong and broken the law, and you know for sure 90% of what you have said is complete lies. There is only 10% that you could possibly believe has any chance of being true (and it isn’t) We are not going to make you further payment.
 
I will make a final offer without prejudice , given the new information about Manuel’s illness.
 
1) You will apologise in writing about making false claims about our company and Michael and me. This is standard to mitigate defamation. You know for a fact that many claims where/are false. I took less money out of the company this year than Manuel by far, and Michael took only mobile phone reimbursement. this is just one example and we can prove all of them.
2) You will agree in writing never to make any claims about the company management and staff again, to anyone, and of course, remove the blogs immediately.
3) you will in writing surrender the equity- we agree to distribute it amongst the coders and Shiva.
4) You will delete any intellectual property, code database that is property of the company etc, or return it the company.
5) You will agree in writing that we do not owe you anything further and no claims, or any other formal process will be pursued, and we agree likewise to not pursue any formal proceedings or claims against you.
 
If you want to go to war of $10,000 and risk your brothers health, and jeopardise our investor’s investments further, and the other coders jobs, and you have no remorse for your false claims (even if you believe I am a terrible person, there is no justification for telling complete lies about me) then you are no real Christian, just someone that calls yourself that.
 
This is a fair and reasonable offer, we both walk away highly damaged and will have to accept it and forgive, but at least we can all move on with our lives and businesses in peace. I hope you understand this is a compassionate offer, given your circumstance. Justice is also Christian virtue- so if the compassion is not accepted in Christian-like fashion justice will be pursued by full force.
 
David
Because this has been going on long enough and obviously we are dealing with experience criminals I make it clear to them that there will be no more negotiations and I asked Sergiu to stop replying to their emails:

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Manuel Manolache <manuel2001ro@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Michael and David,
 
This has gone on long enough. I will happily risk my life so that justice will be served. You are a mockery for all that the human race stands for. There is not one righteous bone in your body. 
You will be paid in full for what you did, and this is not a threat, it’s prophecy. 

I leave you with a statement you made and this verse from the Bible, you can do the math yourself:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 2:14 PM, David Price <david@gatheronline.com> wrote:
You know why everyone in the team hates you– it must be because you are the good guys right, and no one can stand being around the good guys, because you are so much purer than everyone.
 
Psalm 34:21 Evil shall slay the wicked,
            And those who hate the righteous will be condemned.
 
Expect us.
Warm regards,
Manuel Adelin Manolache
 
 
David goes back on what he previously said, that we are the good guys and purer than everyone else, and makes it clear to us that we are the wicked ones and they are the righteous:
 
From: David Price <david@gatheronline.com>
To: Manuel Manolache <manuel2001ro@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Michael Van Andel <michael@gatheronline.com>; David Price <davidprice.ethics@gmail.com>; Sergiu Manolache <xergiu90@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017, 12:14:41 EEST
Subject: Re: Final opportunity to make an offer
 

To be clear Manuel, that quote from me was sarcasm. I was saying you think you are more righteous than us, but are negative and damaging towards everyone- that’s the real reason they don’t like you.

 
You only think about yourself and your false virtue.
 
You are no real Christian. Or Maybe you will see the light, or Sergiu will help you to, while you still have time. Go look up the definition of daily active user on Wikipedia because I know that is the thing you think you can hang your hat on- but you are just wrong by definition.
 
The only wrong you can really believe we did is to you, and its should have been settled by negotiation and civilly. And now you have wronged us back even worse many fold. So there is no righteousness in that.
 
And so Sergiu is going to go down with you, and you won’t give him any say- we will see when the real legal consequences arrive how supportive of you he is in this false crusade.
 
The problem with your quotes is you think you are the virtuous one on that side of the quote but actually you will see you are on the other side.
 
Here is just some proof about google’s legal finding, same as Seedr’s same as the courts
 
The papers are being signed today. As I said I am completely fine with going the legal route, I know who is right and the outcome. And even you both know for sure now the laws you have broken.
 
David
 
 
The next day, without us replying to their email, we were yet again graced with one more final offer, this time more generous ($2000 out of the $110,000 we have invoices for) and of course he exploits the fact that I have Cystic Fibrosis to manipulate Sergiu into taking their offer. He says that people with Cystic Fibrosis have such a reduced lifespan, we might as well allow them to get away with all the crimes they did and so my life will be fuller.
I also noticed he learned a new word ‘prejudice’, this definitely proves to everyone how sophisticated he is compared to us sick, poor, stupid, wicked but hard working Romanians:

From:
 David Price <david@gatheronline.com>
To: Manuel Manolache <manuel2001ro@yahoo.co.uk>; Michael Van Andel <michael@gatheronline.com>; sergiu manolache <xergiu90@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, 30 September 2017, 17:12
Subject: CF
 

I googled Cystic Fibrosis today as I was busy with other things these last days I didn’t realise it had such a reduced lifespan. I feel bad about how this legal battle is going to affect likely the rest of Manuel’s life. Thus I will make one last effort to make a reconciliation. If you don’t accept my conscience is clear as I tried and you are your own men.

 
Also the lawyers advise they need to receive an original copy of the signed documents by courier so we have a few days left to solve this before they arrive there. 
 
The truth is I did get an independent review as well as the opinions of internal staff virtually all who said your hours claimed were overstated.
 
Without prejudice I acknowledge that something is owing on the final invoices but not the full amount as I am not a coder and it is perfectly reasonable for a) me to get a review and b) Manuel’s raise was conditional on meeting a deadline which was not met. This was recorded in a Skype chat which the lawyers have.
 
Being sick and going to Church every Saturday does not excuse making up any lie you want about us. It does not excuse breaking data breach and theft laws and other laws.  Getting back at someone who you feel wronged you in this way is not justice it is vengeance and it is not moral nor Christian.
 
Although Seedrs investigation found in our favour they are not willing to run a public campaign with us again until the issue with you is resolved. As they don’t choose to run campaigns with companies with ongoing legal disputes. This is one of the reasons damages to us will exceed $200k from your actions.
 
Maybe you feel the reviews we got were wrong and you feel you worked hard and deserve the full payment. As I acknowledged above without prejudice something is owing on the final invoices but at the same time you have damaged our company significantly and caused us huge expenses. The damages exceed anything owing to you by a substantial amount.
 
If this progresses legally I have no doubt you will end up owing us more than you could afford to pay once legal expenses are included. And other legal consequences as well. Without prejudice what remains on the final invoices would be insignificant.
 
In a settlement we need you to reverse the unlawful damage you have done as much as possible. That is you have defamed us and our company. This needs to be acknowledged in a letter and apologised for.
 
You need to return stolen data and code. It is our property.
 
You need to cease and desist from and future statements and any legal claims and procedures permanently.
 
You need to understand that much of the damage cannot be reversed. Even if Seedrs allows a public campaign because this is resolved it won’t be as successful as it would have been, as investors have been exposed to what they would consider as additional risk. We have also as I said had significant expenses on lawyers and security experts etc.
 
On this basis in a settlement you must forgo and surrender all your shares ( which as I already explained are subject to our repurchase clause anyway) and forgo much of your final invoices- as an acknowledgement that you have done significant damage to the company unlawfully and are remorseful that you have broken numerous laws and done damage.
 
The final without prejudice offer from us is USD $2000 to settle this subject to you complying with all the points above.
 
As I said at the outset of this email this is on compassionate grounds. I’m not negotiating. It’s take it or leave it.  Our legal proceedings are almost on train. If you want to settle do, if you want a legal battle fine, you know the consequences for you are dire or maybe you don’t know and will find out the hard way. I don’t know why you would risk health and valuable time on a pointless and losing battle but if bitterness is all you have then I can’t stop you destroying yourself and wasting precious time that could be spent on worthwhile things.
 

David

Because I don’t want to waste my words with liars any more and also because David Price and Michael Van Andel pretend to be Christians I just sent them some Bible verses:

On 1 Oct. 2017 3:08 am, “Manuel Manolache” <manuel2001ro@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Galatians 6:7
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. Whatever a man sows, he will reap in return. 8 The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; but the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
Psalm 28:8
The Lord protects his chosen one.
He saves him and gives him strength.
Psalm 20:6
Now I know that the LORD saves His anointed;
He will answer him from His holy heaven
With the saving strength of His right hand.
Revelation 3:17
You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.
Acts 8:20
May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money!
James 5:1
Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.
Romans 13:8
Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law.
Matthew 5:25
Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison.
26 Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
Proverbs 13:1111
Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
Psalm 37:16
Better the little that the righteous have than the wealth of many wicked; 17 for the power of the wicked will be broken, but the LORD upholds the righteous.
Proverbs 17:16
Why should fools have money in hand to buy wisdom, when they are not able to understand it?
Luke 3:14
Then some soldiers asked him, “And what should we do?” He replied, “Don’t extort money and don’t accuse people falsely—be content with your pay.”
Matthew 6:24
No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
Proverbs 29:6
By transgression an evil man is ensnared,
But the righteous sings and rejoices.
7 The righteous is concerned for the rights of the poor,
The wicked does not understand such concern.
Proverb 29:16
When the wicked increase, transgression increases;
But the righteous will see their fall.

They didn’t like the Bible verses too much so they started threatening and cursing me some more while at the same time pretending to have a conscience, without prejudice of course:

—– Forwarded message —–
From: David Price <david@gatheronline.com>
To: Manuel Manolache <manuel2001ro@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Michael Van Andel <michael@gatheronline.com>; sergiu manolache <xergiu90@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, 1 October 2017, 01:16:29 EEST
Subject: Re: CF

Why do you think you are the righteous one on the side of those proverbs?

 
Lying, stealing and blackmailing. How could we ever be worse than you.
 
My conscience is completely clear now. It’s a pity you have nothing in your life worth living for other than this. You could have a short full length Fe. You are choosing a short empty one. In fact you will also tarnish your religions name by claiming to be on their side when what you have done is exposed publicly by the court proceedings. I doubt there will be grace for you in the next life either if you continue to not know light from darkness.. You are spirituslly deceived.

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